Poynton PANDAS

Poynton PANDAS
"We truly believe that when you talk to others who have been through similar things, you take the first step on the road to recovery"

Thursday 30 April 2015

Free stuff if you Like and Share!




Dear Mums (and dads) (musn't forget you dads)

I am writing to you to let you know of a marvellous offer if you like and share

my blog post.

You see I am trying to find a way to motivate you into action. I've got my long list of "personal motivations to act" in front of me and I'm working my way down it, trying to find a way to get you to say (through the power of social media) that you very much "like" and will definitely "share" this.....

What is it? Will I love it? Will it impress my friends? Will it leave my husband in awe of his amazing wife who can keep a clean house, occupy the children meaningfully, walk the dog and look like a princess?
Tell me, tell me.... What's in it for me? There's got to be something in it for me?



Well dear mums and dads. This is my offer to you. Give this post a like and a share and you will get  FREE....... support if you need it. You see around 1 in 7 mums (although this figure is likely to be more like 1 in 5) and 1 in 25 dads (how they measure these things, I'll never know) suffer from ill mental health during and after pregnancy. So that means that for every antenatal group you're taking part in mums or for every footie match you're watching dads (sorry to be so sexist), there is likely to be at least one person in that group or on that pitch that feels like
It could be you. You could be that person that feels like poo. It could be your best mate but you may never know. Because us mums n dads have a very clever way of hiding how we feel for fear of the shame. What will my mum/dad/sister/boss/cat think?



So this is my message to you. There is support out there to get better and a LOT of it is FREEEEEEE. GPs, Health Visitors, some NHS Trusts run free counselling, CBT, Mindfulness sessions. FREEEEEE Peer Support via Twitter every Wednesday 8-9pm #PNDhour, free peer support groups where you can meet like-minded people who are going through the same stuff. This is common people. Really common unfortunately.

So, please today like and share this blog post. Just cos you might be helping someone who needs it.

If you need us we are here www.facebook.com/poyntonPANDAS
If we are too far away from you, look here http://www.netmums.com/local-to-you/local/index/support-groups/antenatal-postnatal-support
Or for more information on perinatal mental health please visit http://www.pandasfoundation.org.uk/

Get Liking and Sharing folks.....



Monday 27 April 2015

Guest Blog from South Manchester PANDAS. "My pre/postnatal depression story" by Hannah



My name is Hannah and I am Mum to two gorgeous boys – Alex (aged 5) and Daniel (aged 2).  In hindsight I had postnatal depression after having Alex but never sought any advice or professional support.  At her second (and last visit) I remember the Health Visitor asking me the questions to “score” my mood and her commenting on how down I appeared.  But she then explained that she was about to go on maternity leave herself so gave me the phone number for the health visiting team if I had any problems!!  I was very tearful and I definitely struggled to bond with my baby but put this down to a very traumatic labour.  My strategy for coping was to be very busy and relied very heavily on my family.

When Alex was two we decided to try for a second baby and was very fortunate to conceive quickly.  Whereas I had had bad morning sickness with my first pregnancy, (including being sick every day for 9 months!) I was much worse with my second pregnancy!!  Even before my booking-in appointment I had ended up in hospital due to dehydration and was told I had hyperemesis gravidarum.  It’s even difficult for me now to imagine how terrible I was feeling at my worst but I remember lying in the dark, unable to move, thinking that I had three options: to commit suicide; to have an abortion; or to somehow get through the next 8 months.  Thankfully, I went for the third, but at the time it could very easily have been one of the first two options. 

I am certain that being so physically drained was a factor to me developing prenatal depression.  I sobbed at consecutive midwife appointments and talked about how it felt like my unborn baby was a parasite.  She persuaded me to see my GP who then referred to the Crisis Team at hospital as he felt unable to prescribe antidepressants during pregnancy.  Unfortunately, even though I explained to the psychiatric nurse how awful I felt and that I thought that my unborn baby knew it wasn’t loved, this was a dreadful appointment and I was told to contact them again once the baby was born.  I was in a terrible place and I ended up paying for numerous sessions of counselling (where I sat and cried for an hour each week) but eventually stopped as I felt I couldn’t justify the cost.

Thankfully my second labour was much more straightforward and I wasn’t scared or worried about not bonding with the baby as I knew that would come in time.  However, I wasn’t prepared for my low mood to worsen.  The midwives who visited me at were concerned and a psychiatrist visited me at home.  I was happy to try an antidepressant but was also determined to breastfeed.  This wasn’t because I felt I should or that I ought to, but because it was the only thing that I felt I was “good” at.  It was the only thing that I could provide for my baby.  Having said that there were times when I literally fed him then felt so repulsed by him (yes, a strong word, I know) that I passed him to whoever was looking after us.  I didn’t even want to be in the same room as him, thoughts that I am ashamed to share even now. 

Unfortunately it wasn’t until the fifth antidepressant that I tried that worked.  As it’s essential that you take each one for about 2 months, to assess whether it is working, this was a painstakingly slow process.  Thankfully the Crisis Team that I had seen during pregnancy had agreed to put me on the waiting list for Cognitive Behaviour Therapy so Daniel was only a few months old when I started this.  I found it immensely helpful and still practice what I learnt on an almost daily basis.  I have also been fortunate enough to have some excellent counselling on the NHS in the past year which has been incredibly beneficial: just a shame that the waiting lists are as they are. 

It may surprise you that for about the first five or six months I managed to hide most of the above from the vast majority of my friends – both old and new.  My strategy, again, was to keep busy – have groups and classes to get out the house for and “put on the smile”.  I kept hoping and hoping that the tears would stop coming, the feelings of inadequacy, worthlessness and failure would pass and that the guilt would be suppressed.  But eventually it just became too exhausting to keep up the “mask” and I had to be honest with my friends about how much I was struggling.

As well as the medication and therapy one of the most important parts of my recovery has been the support I have received from local Mums who have suffered as I have.  Just being able to go specialist support groups where I felt understood and not judged was absolutely invaluable.  Even if it was somewhere to go to laugh one week and cry the next it was just what I needed.  Not to feel alone in my struggles. 

I believe that the pressures put on Mums now a days – how to act, look, respond, socialise, feel etc etc. is immense.  There are decisions to be made at every stage of motherhood – breast or bottle; controlled crying or not; dummy or not; puree or baby lead weaning; the list goes on and on.  We can feel judged and insecure in our decisions and when combined with sleep deprivation our mood and self esteem can be hugely affected. 

Thanks to the support, therapy and mediation as well as my awesome family and friends, I now feel “well” and am in recovery.  I have remembered (and sometime re-learnt!) how to be “me” again.  I now do things that I enjoy, just for me and try hard not to compare myself to others.  I have met some wonderful people in the past few years and know that good will come from the lows that I experienced.

I feel passionately about changing the attitudes towards mental health and specifically about perinatal mental health.  I believe it is not something to be ashamed of and hidden as it is scarily common, just not spoken about.  I have been brought up as a feminist but also now understand that pregnancy and giving birth changes absolutely everything about you, physically and emotionally, and the adjustment can be an enormous one to cope with.  Although women are incredibly strong and capable of amazing things, I believe we sometimes need help and support to manage with everyday life.  This is why I am proud to be involved in the South Manchester PANDAS support group.  I hope that here women will also be able to find the support and friendship that I found – whether it be a place to laugh together, to cry, or just to be.  You’ll be very welcome. 

South Manchester PANDAS hold peer support meetings bi-weekly on a Thursday morning between 10.30-12pm, at the Home Community CafĂ©, Emmanuel church, Barlow Moor Rd, Didsbury.  We hope to see you there.

If you need any further information please contact Hannah or Lisa at southmanchesterpandas@yahoo.com or find us on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/PNDsupportsouthmanchester for up to date information on support group meetings.



Other Local Support Groups:

Poynton PANDAS: Drop-in support group is held at St George's Church Hall in Poynton on Mondays (term time) 10.45-12.15.  Email psppoynton@aol.co.uk – free

Butterflies: Every Monday during termtime 1.15pm-2.45pm Reddish North Children’s Centre.  Relaxed play session with snack and song time for Mums with PND

Beat the Blues: The first Thursday of every month 7pm-9pm Progress House, Cale Green www.beattheblues-stockport.co.uk  Cake, chat, craft and alternative therapy sessions for £3.

HART: Art for Mums with PND in a relaxed and informal setting, Fridays 10am-12noon, Greg Street, Reddish, www.artsforrecovery.com

Thursday 16 April 2015

A place to be me

Since I was wee, I've had a place to be me
Not in the mountains, or by the sea
But my Granny's farm with a view you should see

A place free from judgement, a place I feel free
A place full of laughter
A place full of tea (yorkshire of course)





It's a place I feel safe, supported, at ease
It's a place I can come and go as I please
If you've ever been, you'll be sure when you leave
You'll feel better for visiting. An emotional reprieve


You'll meet like-minded people
People who know
how hard it can be when you feel very low
You'll be heard and be valued
You'll not feel ashamed
You're worthwhile and wanted
You'll prosper and grow




Now my place is going
We're selling up you see
We're sad and we're wobbling
We're scared to flee..
The warmth of the welcome
The views you must see

What if we can't do it?
Where will we be?
When the place that has held us so tight sets us free

Our hearts full of sadness. Our hearts full of woe
But we know that the place that is ours must let go



Onwards and upwards
Off we will go
Stronger for having been there and so...

I ask if you need somewhere?
A place to be?
A place free from judgement and plenty of tea
You'll find a warm welcome
with us mummies you see....


We have a place. A place you can be.





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Poynton PANDAS (Pre and Postnatal Depression Advice and Support)
A Drop-in Group for mums, dads n tots who need a place to be
Mondays at St George's Church, Poynton 10.45-12.15 (term-time)
psppoynton@aol.co.uk
www.facebook.com/PoyntonPANDAS


See you soon. Rhi, Mel, Kirsty, Joanne, Charlotte and Julia xx






Wednesday 8 April 2015

"Don't beat yourself up..."

"Don't beat yourself up..."

It's a term we have all heard time and again, 'don't beat yourself up' on parenting forums, mother to mother, in person, from professionals.  And it has come to be one of my least favourite metaphors.  I have been asking myself, what is it that I find so abhorrent and unhelpful about this one little sentence?  What is the message behind this innocent looking phrase and what would I like to hear instead?

Since becoming a parent and going through the challenges of toddlerhood with twins, I have discovered some enlightening things about parenting and about myself.  I have journeyed into NVC (non-violent communication) and Positive Parenting and my language has changed, 'It's ok to feel sad, but it's not ok to hit your brother'.  I am helping my children to understand, recognise and feel their emotions.  Instinctively as a parent, you just want your kids to be happy ALL the time.  And yet, that is completely impossible.  And why do we want them to feel happy?  Because it's so uncomfortable to us when they are upset, angry, frustrated, overwhelmed, it's makes us feel all those big feelings and we want them to stop.  We want those feelings to go away.  They are hard for us to handle, because we learnt to squash them down and not feel them.

Except, they don't go away, they linger and fester and come out in other ways.  And in some circumstances, lead to depression, anxiety.

So, I want my children to know when they are happy, sad, frustrated, joyful, angry, excited!  All the emotions, not just the 'nice' ones.

And then I hear 'don't beat yourself up' - there it is again! I realise that behind this phrase, is 'don't feel sad, it's not ok to feel sad, be happy and grateful'  and I want to stand up and scream 'IT'S OK TO FEEL SAD' to all those mummies who ARE feeling sad and need someone to share that with.  It's ok to feel sad because you aren't enjoying every element of parenthood like you imagined you would, it's ok to feel disappointed because your breastfeeding journey ended before you wanted it to, it's ok to feel frustrated because your children won't put their toys away when you tell them to, it's ok to feel overwhelmed when your child has a meltdown in public and everyone is staring at you!  You are not a bad parent, or a failure and you don't need to go away and squash those feelings and pretend you are ok.  You just need someone to listen to you and then you can get those feelings out, much like your child who releases all those feelings whilst screaming on the floor and guess what, you do feel better!

And it's such a huge relief, to have someone listen, truly listen, accept and not try to fix.  That's how I parent (or aim to, but no one is perfect!).  That's what all humans need.

So next time you hear somebody retelling a difficult emotional story or situation about parenthood, listen, reflect, share that moment with them.  Be present. 

It's ok to feel sad.

Tuesday 7 April 2015

My journey through antenatal depression





Hello, my name is Hazel, I’m 34 and live in a quiet little close with my husband and our two little boys, Noah and Daniel.  Noah is, erm, lively, active, inquisitive, boisterous, adventurous, fearless, bonkers, adorable, sensitive and loving.  Daniel’s personality is still developing, so far he is determined, placid and cuddly.
Noah’s pregnancy and labour was text book.  Looking back now I think I had mild anxiety after his birth.  I was worried about getting everything right.  It didn’t help that Noah would settle with anyone but me.  I tried talking to my Health Visitor about my concerns but I got the feeling she didn’t take me seriously.  I remember her commenting that I was dressed and the house was tidy so I was fine! 
I was diagnosed with Antenatal Depression (AND) when I was 4 months pregnant with my second son.  I’d heard of Post Natal Depression but never Antenatal.  It started as soon as I conceived, but at the time I thought my emotional outbursts where due to normal pregnancy hormones. After 7 days of crying hysterically I realised that something wasn’t quite right.  I Googled ‘emotions in pregnancy’ but it didn’t match my symptoms.  I Googled ‘extreme emotions in pregnancy’ and I ticked every box.  I needed help.  I told my husband, who was relieved, because he’d already made a doctor’s appointment and didn’t know how to tell me that I was going.
My doctor was brilliant, I explained the past couple of months and she reassured me that things would get better.  We discussed all of my options.  I was reluctant to take medication because I wanted to get better through natural methods.  When I left I took the prescription and intended to leave it a couple of weeks to see if I could get better myself but I ended up going to the chemist on the way home and started taking them the following day. 
At that time I needed my family but they were not there for me. I’d supported them through stage 4 cancer, a brain haemorrhage and university but the one time I was ‘ill’ and needed support they abandoned me. I still feel let down now, 14 months later, but what good would discussing it do, the words ‘you chose to have kids’ still echoes through my head.  Apparently they’d noticed a change in my behaviour but never said anything to me or my husband.  When I needed my mum the most she wasn’t there and that was hard.  Even though things are better now it’s not the same.
When I announced my second pregnancy my family suddenly stopped caring for my 2 year old whilst I was at work.  For nearly 5 months we had to adjust our working hours to cover childcare which resulted in very few days off together.  With pregnancy fatigue and an extremely active and challenging 2 year old I was physically exhausted some days, thank goodness for In The Night Garden.  
The friends I met when I had Noah were brilliant and were there for me throughout, supporting me sometimes without them even realising.  I find mummies a funny bred, if you know them they are lovely but towards strangers some can be very judgmental.  I stopped going to playgroups and dreaded going anywhere for fear of being judged, and glared at.  At my lowest point I felt worthless and wanted to disappear, not suicidal, I just wanted to vanish for a while.  It left me feeling unbelievably lonely, sometimes I wanted help and support and to be around people who understood how I felt, I wish I’d found PANDAs sooner.  Listening to other mums tell their stories was like listening to them tell mine.  
Towards the end of my pregnancy my little boy, without knowing it, actually helped me.  He was obsessed with Marple’s memorial park and the canal.  Every day we did the same thing, come rain or shine, we’d play on the park, ride round the skate park followed by a walk along the canal looking in every lock.  We’d leave the canal at the Ring O’ Bells and walk down to the precinct, pop into the swimming baths to look at the water, walk past the fire station and peer through the window to see the engine then back to the park.  
Baby number two was born at record speed, 3 hours from first contraction to holding him.  Noah wasn’t particularly interest in him but that was fine.  Daniel is a snuggler, which I love because I missed out on that with Noah.  The Health Visitor came regularly and commented that at only a few weeks old he’d follow me round the room and look for my voice, realising that really boost my confidence.
Second time round I am definitely more relaxed and less anxious.  I’m worried about doing things wrong, as long as both children are cared for and happy who cares if the grass in the garden is a little bit longer than it should be.
During a conversation with my Health Visitor she asked me to think about the things that I enjoy doing for myself, not as a mum or a wife but me, Hazel.  Well I was flummoxed, I really had to think hard and it took me a couple of weeks to come up with anything.
Once Daniel was 4 months old I joined that gym.  I used to love exercise and for the first time in a long time I got 2 hours to myself every other day.  When I was at the gym I didn’t need to worry about the kids, the washing, being perfect.  The positive endorphins from exercise and shifting some baby weight worked wonders.  I’ve also joined a local book club which is giving me something to focus on and enjoy.
I’m due to return to work mid April and I am looking forward to it.  I still have the occasional down days but when they occur I try to think about the positives rather than dwell on the negatives.  It’s taken a while but I feel like myself again and allowing myself that little bit of ‘me’ time has really helped.

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